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Transition Lab is a behind-the-scenes look at presidential transitions. Join Valerie Boyd, director of the Partnership for Public Service’s Center for Presidential Transition for candid discussions with transition experts, exploring the relationship between presidential transitions, effective government and a strong democracy. Transition Lab is a must-listen for anyone interested in developing a better understanding of what needs to happen before a president takes office or starts a second term.

Recent Episodes
  • The 2024 Presidential Transition: What Happened? With Heath Brown
    Feb 18, 2025 – 00:52:21
  • How’s the 2024 transition going? With Max Stier 
    Dec 10, 2024 – 00:35:26
  • Too many cooks in the kitchen? With Lanhee Chen
    Nov 12, 2024 – 00:42:18
  • How do we build a better government? With Jenny Mattingley 
    Oct 29, 2024 – 00:38:58
  • How do you become a political appointee? With Kathryn Dunn Tenpas 
    Oct 15, 2024 – 00:52:03
  • Ever heard of an agency review team? With Melody Barnes  
    Oct 1, 2024 – 00:49:24
  • What if the Constitution had the solutions all along? With Yuval Levin
    Sep 17, 2024 – 00:46:21
  • How do you lead a presidential transition? With former Governor Mike Leavitt
    Sep 3, 2024 – 00:40:00
  • What can we learn from the 2016 transition? With Ann O’Leary and Rich Bagger
    Aug 20, 2024 – 00:53:13
  • Two parties, too many problems? With Lee Drutman
    Aug 6, 2024 – 00:42:52
  • Why should we care about government, anyway? With Eric Liu
    Jul 23, 2024 – 00:55:11
  • How Fragile is American Democracy? With Archon Fung
    Jul 9, 2024 – 00:40:13
  • America’s at a crossroads. Where do we go from here? With Judy Woodruff
    Jun 25, 2024 – 00:43:45
  • Is history repeating itself? With Lindsay Chervinsky
    Jun 11, 2024 – 00:36:31
  • Transition Lab Season 2 Trailer
    May 28, 2024 – 00:04:51
  • Exploring “The Peaceful Transfer of Power”
    Oct 14, 2022 – 00:47:22
  • Yamiche Alcindor and David Marchick on a Transition Like No Other
    Jan 26, 2021 – 00:46:30
  • Chris Liddell on Trump's Transition Out Of Office
    Jan 21, 2021 – 00:36:53
  • Yohannes Abraham on Leading the Biden Transition
    Jan 19, 2021 – 00:35:18
  • Phil Schiliro and Candi Wolff on the Senate’s Role in a Presidential Transition
    Jan 4, 2021 – 00:46:56
  • The Biden Transition to Power
    Dec 18, 2020 – 00:39:02
  • Representative Derek Kilmer on Congressional Modernization and Transitions
    Dec 7, 2020 – 00:34:13
  • State of the Transition: An update with Ken Burns, Josh Bolten and Eric Rauchway
    Nov 23, 2020 – 00:45:55
  • Melody Barnes on the 2008 transition and what lies ahead for the Biden-Harris team
    Nov 16, 2020 – 00:38:34
  • How does the GSA "ascertain" the outcome of an election? An inside look at the GSA, ascertainment and the 2000 election
    Nov 9, 2020 – 00:08:42
  • John Podesta on the 2020 Presidential Transition
    Nov 1, 2020 – 00:40:53
  • An inside look at how the Partnership for Public Service helps build better presidential transitions
    Oct 26, 2020 – 00:39:36
  • Planning Transitions During Unprecedented Times: A Virtual Conference
    Oct 19, 2020 – 00:53:04
  • Steve Hadley and Kurt Campbell on National Security Transitions
    Oct 12, 2020 – 00:34:37
  • Michael Froman on Selecting a President-elect's Cabinet
    Oct 5, 2020 – 00:32:12
  • Famed journalist John Dickerson on “The Hardest Job in the World”
    Sep 28, 2020 – 00:29:11
  • The Art of Agency Review During a Presidential Transition
    Sep 21, 2020 – 00:33:39
  • The Best of Transition Lab
    Sep 14, 2020 – 00:53:25
  • Two Transitions Planners Reflect on 2016 Presidential Election
    Sep 7, 2020 – 00:30:59
  • All-star reporters discuss covering presidential transitions
    Aug 30, 2020 – 00:35:04
  • Key Transition Lessons from Two Former White House Chiefs of Staff
    Aug 24, 2020 – 00:41:32
  • Intelligence Briefings During Presidential Transitions
    Aug 17, 2020 – 00:37:39
  • Preparing the government for a presidential transition
    Aug 10, 2020 – 00:24:14
  • Planning Presidential Conventions
    Aug 3, 2020 – 00:34:53
  • Breaking into a Male-Dominated National Security Arena
    Jul 27, 2020 – 00:40:20
  • Chris Christie on Trump’s Transition to Power
    Jul 19, 2020 – 00:39:37
  • Help Wanted: The Critical Job of Selecting 4,000 Presidential Appointees
    Jul 13, 2020 – 00:44:49
  • The George W. Bush Transition to Power
    Jul 6, 2020 – 00:24:49
  • The Man Who Ran Washington: James Baker
    Jun 29, 2020 – 00:41:53
  • Navigating the Screening Process for High Level Political Appointees
    Jun 21, 2020 – 00:35:23
  • The Worst Transition in U.S. History, with Ted Widmer
    Jun 15, 2020 – 00:33:04
  • The Rocky Transition from Hoover to FDR : How FDR Overcame the Odds
    Jun 8, 2020 – 00:33:42
  • The Clinton Transition to Power
    Jun 1, 2020 – 00:33:20
  • Ken Burns on Presidential Leadership During American Crises
    May 24, 2020 – 00:38:09
  • Planning for a President’s Second Term
    May 18, 2020 – 00:27:31
Recent Reviews
  • GratefulDad927
    Great Podcast
    David Marchick is a knowledgeable and insightful interviewer. It is obvious he knows many of the guests well and that makes for a relaxed and candid conversation. The guests are intimately familiar with past transitions and the Biden transition. What makes this podcast very special is the quality of the guests. Most of them are senior staff who are focused on achieving results and are willing to share their experience in achieving one of the most complicated organizational leadership changes in the world. Fascinating stuff if you are interested in the hard work of governing. Steve Judge
  • wplobo
    Fantastic content
    One of the most interesting and fascinating podcasts in the market. Each interview is a unique historical perspective that has such relevance to politics today. Very well done.
  • NYPPublisher
    Great New Podcast
    David has an excellent interviewing style and obviously come well prepared for these interviews. As we prepare for the next Presidential transition - these stories of previous ones provide a lot of insight for the future.
  • BJMose
    Glad I subscribed
    Thanks to a link on Axios I found this awesome podcast. Great introductory episode with Ken Burns et al. Can’t wait to hear the others.
  • ctscholes
    Non partisan
    I really like how Transition Lab can describe what happened in a non partisan way. I learned so much about the importance of good government and the critical time of moving from one administration to the next. I listened to all of the episodes and am interested in hearing more - especially during this election year.
  • peabody777
    An excellent podcast from a reputable source
    This is an informative, interesting program and a must listen for political science and history nerds. This shines a light on a topic that isn’t really discussed. The episode with Michéle Flournoy was great. Do more one-on-ones with the movers and shakers of presidential transisiton.
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