The Interchange: Recharged

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Clean tech, green finance and energy innovation are the three lanes on the road to a successful global energy transition. At the intersection of these lanes is a place where ideas on finance, technology and policy are shared and debated. That intersection is Interchange Recharged.  

Sylvia Leyva Martinez, principal analyst at Wood Mackenzie, invites visionaries, entrepreneurs, policy-makers and energy analysts to explore the newest developments in renewable technology, explain the ideas on global energy policy that could accelerate the energy transition, and identify new funding and financial models that could solve the biggest challenges we face on the way to net zero.  

Sylvia and her guests bring you data and forecasts on clean technology, climate science, and offer predictions on the build out of utility-scale projects and the future of green finance. 

What impacts do the annual UN Conference of the Parties have on decarbonisation goals and climate change? What will COP30 bring? What’s happening in global EV adoption and development? What’s the forecast for solar energy, one of the major success stories of renewable energy in the last ten years? What does the data tell us about the future of hydrogen, of nuclear, or of low-carbon power?  These are examples of the insights and detailed analyses you can expect bi-weekly on Tuesdays at 7am ET.  


If you like The Energy Transition Show, Catalyst with Shayle Kann, The Big Switch from Columbia University, Open Circuit with Stephen Lacey or The Green Blueprint, you’ll enjoy Interchange Recharged. 

 

Want to get involved with the show? Reach out to podcasts@woodmac.com to: 

Bring Sylvia and Interchange Recharged to your event 

Be a guest on the show  

Sponsor an episode 

Ask a question to Sylvia or one of our guests 

 

Check out another leading clean tech global podcast by Wood Mackenzie, Energy Gang, at woodmac.com/podcasts/the-energy-gang 

Wood Mackenzie is the leading global data and analytics solutions provider for renewables, energy and natural resources. Learn more about Wood Mackenzie on the official website: https://www.woodmac.com/ 

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Recent Episodes
  • Are current legal frameworks too restrictive for CCUS projects? What permitting and tax credit reform needs to happen to make things easier?
    Apr 8, 2025 – 00:46:38
  • Uncertainty isn’t good for domestic solar manufacturing. How are suppliers and utilities managing it?
    Mar 25, 2025 – 00:21:47
  • Is the world giving up on green hydrogen? | Hydrogen energy is having an identity crisis but who’s to blame?
    Mar 11, 2025 – 00:32:21
  • The US needs nuclear energy now, more than ever | Are permitting and regulations set up for rapid deployment?
    Feb 25, 2025 – 00:40:12
  • What needs to happen to strengthen climate resilience in the US? | Balancing climate mitigation with adaptation is getting harder and harder
    Feb 11, 2025 – 00:42:33
  • Meeting energy demand requires long-term solutions. What do they look like?
    Jan 29, 2025 – 00:40:05
  • The energy analysts' view on what’s ahead in 2025
    Jan 14, 2025 – 00:51:35
  • Is US solar growth truly unstoppable?
    Dec 17, 2024 – 00:34:20
  • What does a second Trump term mean for US solar?
    Dec 3, 2024 – 00:32:50
  • Can CCUS help achieve net zero?
    Nov 19, 2024 – 00:41:01
  • How can we ease stress on the grid?
    Nov 5, 2024 – 00:44:20
  • How are tariffs and trade policies impacting green energy growth in the US?
    Oct 22, 2024 – 00:30:14
  • How the energy industry is solving issues with battery safety – part 2
    Oct 9, 2024 – 00:41:53
  • How can the industry improve battery and storage fire safety? - part 1
    Sep 23, 2024 – 00:49:39
  • Innovative financing is needed to mobilise clean energy capital in developing countries. What could it look like?
    Sep 10, 2024 – 00:43:24
  • Is the industry taking the wrong approach to Scope 3 emissions reporting?
    Aug 27, 2024 – 00:35:31
  • Green hydrogen may be less clean than we think
    Aug 13, 2024 – 00:33:21
  • Renewable propane is scaling up, but how far can we take it?
    Jul 30, 2024 – 00:38:36
  • To strengthen American competitiveness in energy, the DOE’s ARPA-E department is focusing on advanced nuclear
    Jul 16, 2024 – 00:42:43
  • Out with lithium and nickel, in with salt and bricks?
    Jul 2, 2024 – 00:58:57
  • Distributed energy storage is taking off
    Jun 19, 2024 – 00:18:35
  • The evolution of the solar industry in the US since 2021
    Jun 18, 2024 – 00:29:29
  • Demand for solar power and energy storage is only going to increase. What’s the plan for meeting it?
    Jun 14, 2024 – 00:59:38
  • Two years on from the IRA and the impact on solar and storage is clear
    Jun 13, 2024 – 01:03:54
  • How to build and optimize the grid of the future
    Jun 4, 2024 – 00:37:57
  • Demand for batteries is skyrocketing - we need new ways of extracting lithium
    May 21, 2024 – 00:36:54
  • How banks and government are working together to achieve net zero in the UK
    May 7, 2024 – 00:33:27
  • What’s the energy transition going to cost?
    Apr 23, 2024 – 00:38:51
  • Can we rely on nuclear as a source of clean, reliable power?
    Apr 9, 2024 – 00:34:10
  • $802 billion on the horizon: the current state of the EV market
    Mar 26, 2024 – 00:29:43
  • A ground-breaking new method of sustainable aviation fuel production
    Mar 12, 2024 – 00:36:46
  • How to create the skilled workforce of 2030
    Feb 27, 2024 – 00:33:58
  • Cutting the red tape around geothermal energy
    Feb 13, 2024 – 00:34:51
  • Transforming EV battery development through the power of AI
    Jan 30, 2024 – 00:39:57
  • Checking in on the hydrogen sector
    Jan 17, 2024 – 00:37:57
  • AI is transforming demand-side management
    Jan 3, 2024 – 00:30:14
  • Carbon capture technology leads the charge for a sustainable future
    Dec 20, 2023 – 00:44:56
  • Textile recycling is helping create a circular economy
    Dec 15, 2023 – 00:37:48
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    Nov 24, 2023 – 00:37:59
  • Creating a circular economy through plastics recycling
    Nov 10, 2023 – 00:28:51
  • How new climate modeling can shape the renewable energy landscape
    Oct 27, 2023 – 00:32:29
  • The Interchange: Recharged - Live at Wood Mackenzie's CCUS Conference - Part 2
    Oct 18, 2023 – 00:38:17
  • Electricity 4.0: A Sustainable, Resilient, and Efficient Future [Sponsored Content]
    Oct 17, 2023 – 00:41:34
  • The Interchange: Recharged - Live at Wood Mackenzie's CCUS Conference - Part 1
    Oct 13, 2023 – 00:55:40
  • Are PPAs Still Playing Their Part In The Expansion Of Solar?
    Sep 15, 2023 – 00:45:50
  • From Hours To Days - Reinventing Long-Duration Energy Storage
    Sep 1, 2023 – 00:49:24
  • Could Deep-Sea Mining Solve Our Critical Metals Dilemma?
    Aug 18, 2023 – 00:50:53
  • A Global Outlook For Local Solar Energy
    Aug 4, 2023 – 00:39:11
  • The Money Circuit – Where Are Banks Investing In Clean Energy?
    Jul 21, 2023 – 00:41:02
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Recent Reviews
  • John Bicoastal
    John Bicoastal
    Soft ball, repetitive, uninsightful interviewer questions. Full of buzz words, consistent failure to explore technology in any depth or challenge science or business models of participants. Worse than worthless, because you provide a platform which implicitly communicates advocacy for (at least several) really bad ideas ! Schneider Electric should be better than this.
  • Guy Har
    Greenwashing continues
    CCS episode in Feb was pure greenwashing garbage. I stupidly decided to give this podcast another go and the most recent maritime Hydrogen bollox is further greenwashing garbage. And just thermodynamically a mile off the tech pace. The interviewer didn’t bother to enquire exactly how Hydrogen gets transported with its -250C liquefaction temperature or why wasting 70% renewable electricity to produce Hydrogen to then turn back into electricity makes any sense. Permanently unsubscribing. Shame on you Wood Mackenzie just another transition delay protagonist dressed on green clothes.
  • LAexplorer
    Inspiring and informative
    Terrific episode on sustainable sea transport. Look forward to more.
  • bluebill987
    Used to be a great show…
    But the change in host, and apparent change in focus, has pretty much ruined this once excellent podcast. I haven’t unsubscribed yet, but probably will soon if there are not some improvements…
  • Apprate31415
    Disappointed and Frustrated
    I can’t recall ever reviewing a podcast, but felt the need to share. Prior to Shayle’s departure, this podcast used to be THE best in the clean tech biz. Now, it not only feels as if the host is ill-informed, but the general messaging feels as if it’s it borders on Oil & Gas propaganda. I do hope WoodMac and the production team can right the ship, but based on the first episodes, I’ll probably be tuning this one out.
  • russian interference
    Disappointed in the changes
    Need to find a new source for my clean tech info. This new crew/format isn’t cutting it.
  • Juetin Holmes
    The New Show Is Terrible
    This was one of the best pods in clean tech. The new version feels like a garbled, discombobulated, buzz word vomit on clean energy. Wood Mack, y’all butchered this.
  • GabrielKind
    New host ignores guests
    I loved the show with Shayle. It was always the best podcast on the energy sector. New host drones on about his own (seemingly misled) opinions and assertions and seems to redirect guest sentiment into his own conclusions which don’t line up logically with what the guests are saying. In the last episode he keeps going on about the importance of oil and gas for reliability and how unreliable renewables are. Variability isn’t the same as unreliability! Even when the guest points this out, he just keeps insisting on being an oil and gas shill. Also kept saying how we need to move the goalpost of renewable adoption back to the late half of the century— NO, we need a renewables based grid now. There are enough shills in petrol companies telling us to delay. Get someone pro renewable energy who knows what they’re talking about who listens to guests. Until then, one of my favorite podcasts ruined.
  • lhellbelle
    Used to be good
    This new host talks about his opinion and his own thoughts too much. Focus on the interviews with the guest!
  • energy ened jss
    New host… such a disappointment
    I loved this show with Shayle Kahn. Super-smart, super-informed analysis. I hoped we’d get something in the same league from the new host. Having listened to first episode, I can say definitively: My hopes are dashed. The guest was interesting, but questions for the guest were not just analytically in-rigorous— they were simply ill-informed. Maybe the host has an area of expertise- but the energy transition does not seem to be it, and I’m not sure why he’s hosting a pod on it.
  • Back in the MSSR
    Sad to see Wood Mackenzie Ousting Energy/Climate Journalism
    To see Clean Tech Media go first was understandable (we thought), Wood Mac was just reorganizing and internalizing parts of their business.But with this latest shift in our sting of the inner change and the energy gang hosts, it’s no absolutely clear that Wood MacKenzie is only out for their own personal interest, rather than adding meaningful conversation to the energy space (when it is needed now more than ever). They have dismantled the two most meaningful Energy and Climate space podcast discussions, removing an important critical weekly thread that now goes dark in lieu of [fill in the blank Wood MacKenzie person here].
  • Colonel Sanchez
    An invaluable pillar of the energy transition
    Very grateful to Shayle and Stephen for their tireless work producing quality, cutting-edge content. Such a gift for our industry.
  • bringintheheat41
    Amazing!
    Love this podcast! It’s super informative for beginners and experts alike plus the hosts have excellent chemistry. My go to for anyone who’s looking to learn more about climate tech
  • nimbus2000guy
    Good balance of accessible and wonky
    Good balance of accessible and wonky
  • Bosco Rio
    Great Perspective
    Love the expert investor perspective on the topic of transition and how that is considered as a key component along with tech and policy. Many other podcasts tend to focus on only one aspect. Well done.
  • CaptainKoKo
    Always thoughtful insights.
    Up to the minute commentary on what’s happening now!
  • Henry3P
    Always terrific
    I sure hope it continues after the demise of GTM. Sigh.
  • energyted
    Excellent energy podcast
    I’ve been listening to this show for the last 4 years, and still wait anxiously for the next episode. It is approachable for people new to the industry (as I was when I started listening), but also very informative for those deep in the sector. Also, quite entertaining!
  • fishyrainn
    Interesting and educational conversations
    The perfect podcast for new learners in the sector as well as more experienced people as well in order to grasp the current conversations in the industry!
  • Energy Transition
    Energy Transition
    Very informative introductory podcast on the issues with intermittent and over supply of renewable energy and what are the potential options. Great for all knowledge levels trying to understand some of the practical issues with the Energy Transition.
  • Electrical Enginerd
    You complete me!
    Ok, not really, but this is a great podcast if you want to keep your ear to the tracks regarding cleantech.
  • jmsjolly
    Decarb Draft - the money edition
    I’m thinking Shayl has you beat Stephen!
  • AmyZ1904
    Interesting and informative
    If you’re interested in energy or clean tech / climate change, this is the podcast for you!
  • Jason Shure
    They land RIGHT in the sweet spot
    I’m a regular person, not in the business, just an intelligent citizen who is develop a deep interest in and care about the subject matter. These gents thread that experience-needle perfectly, talking on a high level but with limited inside baseball. They do something else that’s tricky too, as they clearly are aspirational and have spent their lives on this issue, and yet they are unpreachy, unjudgy, moored in a practical reality. There’s just enough personality (and the two hosts are very different), plenty of editing, and good guests. I’m not a huge podcast person but this one has been a revelation for me.
  • DanielWGreen
    One of the best out there.
    Highly recommend you give this a listen.
  • Energy analyst
    Favorite energy podcast
    I listen to several energy podcasts. This is my favorite one by far.
  • Love it !!$!!
    Top notch
    One of my favorite podcasts
  • Terrible. Can't multitask??!!
    Thought provoking, intelligent and all things energy!
    I love listening to Stephen and Shayle talk through energy related topics. The show is easy to follow even for an energy newbie. And even if you’re an energy guru, there are still so many interesting topics that they go through on the podcast.
  • Herc Kylie
    Awesome & Informative Show
    This is a great show that is high on information. I always learn something new about green energy and green tech. Very important voice about Renewable Energy and Climate Crisis
  • jaznd
    Every show every time.
    I listen to this show as soon as it shows up in my phone. I don’t always agree with the presenters but they do a good job of discussing the issues and bringing on experts and explaining issues beyond my areas of engineering.
  • agustinochoa19
    Remarkable!
    I had been looking for a ‘renewable energy’ podcast to better educate myself in the industry. I found the perfect one here!
  • ckosuth
    Tour Guides of the Energy Transition
    Stephen and Shayle’s commentary is a critical component to my personal learning and research as an engineer working in the renewable energy industry. They are well informed and draw from their vast professional network and life experience to help explain difficult concepts to their audience. An added bonus is their great wit and sense of humor! More decarbonization drafts please.
  • CrispySweetPotatoe
    Absolutely exceptional podcast
    As an undergrad engineer set on working in the renewables sector, I cannot express how much I love this podcast. The co-hosts are extremely articulate, the information is captiving, and I have found myself coming back over and over again throughout the years. Given how important the energy transition and climate debate is coming, I believe anyone that has a curiosity for learning should subscribe to this podcast and give it at least a few listens. The first step to joining the global climate movement is education.
  • Larry - NYC
    Great!
    Super podcast for climate policy wonks!
  • Benihana H.
    Great pod! A weekly treat!
    Hats off to Stephen and Shayle! Look forward to new episodes every week. The deep decarbonization draft was so good I listened to it three times to take it all in, if only Stephen had taken off-shore wind with the second overall pick. Found the community solar episode very helpful as I decide how best to mitigate my personal impact on the precious biosphere. Keep it coming! -Ben Beverly, MA
  • Joel Sapp
    Part of my weekly podcast lineup
    A must listen podcast in the Green Tech lineup.
  • Peter-GCES
    Put This In Your Head
    If you want to hitch your investment wagon to a massive economic growth opportunity, listen to smart energy podcasts like this one.
  • Trvkgcnj
    Great show for anyone interested in clean energy
    Always informative, timely and entertaining.
  • Rob Gramlich
    Essential clean energy content
    And they covered transmission! Now it is complete! :)
  • Mr.wwwiseman
    Always fascinating
    As a college mechanical engineering student with a passion for clean tech, The Interchange helps me go above and beyond my undergraduate degree in preparation for my Master’s program. Their insightful discussion of entrepreneurship, politics, law and the overall clean tech industry is an invaluable resource to the next generation of aspiring environmental leaders.
  • Ryan (elroy) W
    gtm podcast review
    GTM research informs us about projects big and small. They discuss important renewable energy issues, told by industry leaders, like the vocal jighar shah From the future of utility scale wind and solar, to political happenings, such as the drama of trump and mueller. Their hosts are knowledgeable industry leaders, I always look forward to their discussions that sometimes involves net meters!
  • Colkerns yo
    Essential listening for solar or DER professionals
    Keep abreast of the rapidly developing landscape!
  • baghdesarian
    Distributing the Energy Revolution
    Simply the most important media on the developing revolution in energy production and distribution. The Interchange connects the relatively small group of energy disruptors that are simultaneously spreading hope in the climate crisis and reinventing the economics of global energy. If you’re not listening you’ll miss the spark.
  • SOJ777
    100% Audio Energy
    Stephen and Shayle provide the rare 1-2 of great entertainment and powerful information. They don't sugar-coat the distrubing data undrelying the climate crisis, but they are usually able to avoid despair with interesting insights that keep some cautious optimism alive. Shayle blends his super-quant brain with a easy vernacular to break down complex numbers and get to the heart at where the problems and solutions are. Stephen is always able get great guests on the pod and seamlessly connnect seemingly disparate global events into what they mean for the energy transition and climate movement. 100% Audio Energy.
  • evie in sf
    Excellent, engaging coverage for cleantech & renewables
    Stephen Lacey & Shayle Kann always make me want to tune in and hear the latest in cleantech. You'll hear everything from why there are electric scooters on the sidewalk to global gigawatts of solar and renewables installed.
  • camerongwillard
    Essential listening for the renewable energy space
    This is an unmatched overview of new development in renewables.
  • scoop scoop 123
    bright!
    love this show. these guys make learning about policy and world energy events fun!
  • Stocksail
    Best energy podcast
    The info and insights brought through the Interchange have been transformative for my renewable energy landscape knowledge. Thank you for the time and professionalism (and clear audio) you put into this!
  • abscomp
    Good podcast but support false and misleading “journalists”.
    Steven and shale have some great episodes and seem to care about truth in journalism for their own show. Oddly, they support a popular false narrative about “Musk hating media” - all this because he (perhaps naively) expects journalist to have “some” basic standards of truth. Perhaps because they are not actual journalists, they do not appreciate the damage an untrustworthy media can do to our democracy. Even so, I do recommend their insightful and honest podcasts.
  • apawpaw
    Very informative
    This is a great show. They talk about interesting subjects and the usually do a good job explaining them with the right amount of detail (for me, at least!)
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