Each episode is an action to right a rotting sinking ship called The Family. Exposing the worst of porn industry and its grooming of innocent youngsters to please the abusers and rapists of children- that is the truth in the belly of porn-hub, about the most recent episode that raised my anger and shock, and admiration of the Supreme Court Brief these authors wrote and submitted. I am a mom, teacher, and follower of this podcast. Every law-abiding and family loving American should listen and then do something. Our children are the ones who suffer irreparably , not adults. Listen, weep, and pray what you must do to shut down this horrific evil to its death, for it is killing our next generation.

Absolutely love this movement to put the rights of children before adults. It is imperative that we defend those who cannot defend themselves (i.e children) and that truth could not be more clear in this podcast. It has totally made me rethink IVF, adoption, divorce etc. and changed my perspective in so many other ways. Keep it up “Them Before Us” and change the world!!!

I like how they pull in a lot of social science research and studies and legal context in ways that show me new angles I’ve never thought of before.

For anyone interested in the rights of children in the US and globally, this podcast is a must

i binged all the episodes as fast as i could. katy and jenn are brilliant, well-spoken, relatable, and fearless leaders in the fight to preserve children’s rights. i learn so much from them and feel equipped to have conversations about these issues from a child-centered perspective. specifically, their episodes on divorce have been healing for me - a 42-year-old wife and mom who is affected almost daily by the divorce of my parents at age 9. i’m so grateful for the work they do. my FAV podcast.

Christian, if you don't know much about the industry of big fertility (and I mean all of it, not just the abortion component), now is the time to become informed. Katy and Jenn cover so many topics in this podcast, emphasizing that all these issues matter, because of the impact it has on children's lives and how culture views them. If you haven't read the book already (Them Before Us) this is your introduction!

Even if you aren’t a Christian, the logic of protecting the rights of children should be something you want to understand. Also, if you are a child of divorce, this podcast is like therapy! And such an encouragement if you are also a child of divorce committed to providing your own children with a better experience. If you are a Christian, this show is full of science and research to demonstrate God’s truth and perfect design —the way He created men and women to come together and raise children. And by shifting the perspective (children’s rights > adult desires), it gives answers to the questions Christians often have surrounding IVF, donor conception and surrogacy.

I love this podcast! I want everyone to listen! I am sharing 🙏🏾

The importance of carrying your cross so that your children don’t have to carry it for you.

Love the show and the framework of putting kids first! I’m also a child of divorce, my mother has been married 5 times, and I did not meet my biological father until I was in college. Since then I’ve built a great relationship with him and that whole side of my family. It still pains me though that I missed out on meeting my grandmother and all the time I could have spent with them. Thank you for the show.

If you care about children and are astounded by the current popular ideology that totally disregards their protection, this is the podcast for you. Katy and Jenn clearly articulate why so much that is taken for granted in today’s culture is harmful to children. This is not an issue just for conservatives and Christians, and this podcast reflects that. The two hosts present facts and anecdotes to support the idea that children’s rights must come before adult’s desires. It is not an easy position to take, but they show why it is so important to put children first. Make sure to listen to the opening episode first so that you understand their credibility on these issues.

Katy and Jenn, Are doing work that is nothing short of heroic. They are advocating and putting at the forefront, children’s rights. We live in an age where children are meant to bend and flex to the lives of adults. Katy and Jenn call adults to do hard things like sacrificing their desires so children may thrive. Get on board! There’s no slowing down Them Before Us!

Amazing podcast and love learning from these ladies on how to see things from a children’s rights perspective. Can’t wait for more!!

Looking forward to more defending the rights of children! :)