I find these two mostly fun and informative to listen to, though recently it’s a real struggle to listen. For a few weeks one of their mics was reverberating and this week one of them was on an audio delay. They could use someone to edit their show, or at least listen to it for sound quality prior to publishing. Unrelated, the wickets content they advertised on the show as available in a nicely packaged format through their website was incomplete (just an intro pdf) when I joined the scholar program last year. Had to read a huge sprawling message board thread to try to extract the content myself. Promoting content as complete and ready to go to recruit paid subscribers while not having that content ready is a blemish.

Steve’s mic is echoing - Great content but can’t hear very well!

Steve is incredible, but John is unlistenable - during interviews he asks and answers his own questions and suffocates the listener. If I have to hear the word “zeitgeist” one more time I may snap. He has a wonderful knowledge base but his personality over the air makes me want to puke.

In the best way possible, these guys are the opposite of that youtube video with a title like: “one simple trick to dominate your next marathon in 2025…”

Really great topics and conversations! I am a collegiate field hockey coach and find the topics and conversations very insightful.

Update: Aug. 2023--sad to say, I'm unsubscribing: can't handle the loud and disruptive sound of Steve constantly bumping/banging on his mic. I appreciate the content, suggestions, historical context, and general tone of caring towards the athletes. Thanks for sharing your expertise. Steve, for the sake of your listeners, please exercise these basic mic techniques: please stop jostling/banging your mic (you do this on your Growth Equation podcast, too), and please use your mute button if you feel a cough coming on. I don't drink alcohol, but for those who do and who enjoy drinking games: "eck-cetera." :-)

These two gentlemen do a terrific job of combining their joint experience, with current running trends, technology and science to create the best run coaching podcast on the market. They recognise their bias when they have it and do a really good job of following the science. This is a podcast strictly about running for runners and coaches. I’ve incorporated a lot of their suggestions into my training and coaching with good results. Keep up the great work!

By far my favorite podcast as a high school CC and track coach!

After running D1 in a program where everyone was constantly injured and no one was having fun…I’ve first hand scene the value of good coaching and grounded wisdom. This podcast is the GOLD Standard for what coaches should strive for. Following Steve and his colleagues I’ve learned so much and developed so much as an athlete. Thanks for the knowledge and inspiration!

Best podcast on the subject of run coaching, in depth discussions on all subjects related to endurance training

I betcha

I wish that Steve would find a different co-host. Even when Marcus makes good points he says it in such a condescending way that I don't want to listen. Not an episode goes by that he doesn't shoehorn in some unnecessarily contrarian opinion, brag about how many books he's read (and how that makes him a way smarter coach than you), and complain that no one understands Lydiard as well as he does.

Absolutely the best running podcast available! Coach Marcus is top drawer and provides amazing knowledge!

This podcast is excellent for coaches. But for the love of all things coaching - TELL LISTENERS WHERE TO GO FOR YOUR SCHOLAR PROGRAM! Myself; like most others, listen to this while driving or walking, last thing I want to try to remember when I’m done driving is go searching through show notes, etc to find how to sign up for a program. Instead of raving about it each week & saying; “sign up now”. Rave about it the say; “to join, go to www…..”

Steve and Jonathan provide AMAZING ideas and strategies for running coaches and coaches of other sports alike. Thanks for your time and hard work, guys!

Great training advice from a couple of experts. Great show for athletes of any level who want to structure their training and know what works.

Love the material covered and knowledge. It’s super distracting though when one of the hosts (or someone near them) is eating something with a crinkly wrapper, microwaving things, drinking something, etc..... I’ve had to turn off a couple episodes and delete them because the noise there is so distracting, I don’t even hear the content :(.

There are very few resources out here for endurance coaches as this one. Their Scholars Program provides even more context and training, as well. I appreciate you both bringing in different experts (Joe Vigil, Mike Smith (the erudite NAU coach), amongst others) gives a great view of how to get at coaching athletes at various levels. I echo the discussion on mic etiquette, fellas, but that’s a minor correction that doesn’t lessen the overall content of this FREE resource. Please bring on Ed Eyestone and Mike Smith after next month’s (fingers crossed) nationals. I’d love to hear their thoughts expounded upon in an open forum beyond the guesswork from the 7 minute comparison in the scholars program. I seriously cannot thank you enough for this podcast.

Continues to be navel gazing with buzzword salads but I have gotten to use to their voices and banter that it has grown on me.

I’ll admit that I’m one of those terrible people who don’t “rate and review” on a regular basis, but after tuning into this podcast since it’s inception I’m compelled to do so! These guys are unequivocally the foremost resource for running coaches in the game today. I rely on them to stay on top of the most recent research, and to break it down into and easily digestible format. They are able to dissect and disseminate this information in an engaging and easily understandable fashion. I share this podcast on a regular basis, and the content has had a profound influence on how I’ve coached my athletes at both the collegiate and high school levels, in addition to gen pop. I thoroughly enjoy these discussions, download and consume each podcast as soon as it’s released, and consistently look to Mr. Magness and Mr. Marcus to be a “signal in the noise.”

I go out for a run ready to enjoy the podcast and I find myself listening to the same thing again and again. They make great effort trying to explain something but using complicated words and the explanation ended being more complex than the concept being explained. And then again, a mixture of complex words that repeat themselves without saying anything more than if the workout does not work just modify it.

These guys are legit my favorite podcasters (if that’s even a word). They keep it 100, no fluff ever. If you’re looking for real tips and topics over running - tune in!!

I learn a good amount from each episode and I like listening to the discussion.

Love the podcast and it’s significantly improved my coaching. But some of the audio needs some improvement. The most recent episode, 110 had some bad cross fades where I couldn’t hear each other finish their points. Love everything else! Especially the tangents and conversation nature!

Magness is a solid moderator, but Marcus does not allow the guest to adequately share his/her wisdom, instead bulldozing over them whilst patting himself on the back.

Magness is a calm, reasonable coach who does everything he can to bring order to this podcast. Marcus refuses to stay on topic and seems to willfully shun any sort of organized discussion. Ask him a straight forward question about a kind of workout and he’ll ramble for 10 minutes without even sort of answering it. But he’ll tell you how many books he reads and how many sources he has as often as he can. Likewise, Marcus hijacks interviews by interrupting guests mid-answer to bring up something partially related and that gets sidetracked to the point everyone forgets the original question and we’re all left hanging. However much you like running and/or training theory, this podcast will frustrate you no end.

Great insights but for the love of god stop eating, coughing, and sneezing into the mic.

Love Steve Magness! He is a wealth of knowledge. John Marcus could use a slice of humble pie, but he has good insights as well.

Magness and Marcus’ podcast is so informative that they should be getting paid! I’ve learned more from their podcast in the past month than I have in the last two years from every other source. These guys cover coaching so in depth that whether you are a coach or a runner, you will find it very beneficial. I cannot recommend it enough. Thanks Schuyler Hall for recommend it to me!

I first stared listening about a month ago and have since listened to almost all the shows available. I’ve been a runner for 13 years and never before have I found a show that goes as deep into the science of running and on how to coach runners and about being a better coach. Keep it up you guys rock!

Let’s just go back to cinder tracks and leather shoes

An informal environment for learning. Thank you sharing your hard earned knowledge. It is clear and refreshing to feel the passion permeate through the dialogue.

This podcast used to be great but it’s really slipped. Marcus fancies himself some kind of street philosopher and the two of them together basically say that you can’t really know anything about training unless you have their experience. They don’t give hardly any actionable advice for runners. The latest episode with David Epstein is another piece of evidence. They have him on just to laud and sell the new Magness and Stulberg boom. These guys really need to get over themselves.

I am a cycling coach and bike fitter. Not a runner. You guys have great comments and philosophies on coaching and I enjoy your podcast. That said, I wish you would know more about Dave Asprey before you trash him. He may not have a degree in whatever, but he is an expert on many things. I am not here to champion the guy, he's not my guru. And I understand your point about following random bio hackers. But there is an enormous amount of useful and actionable info from that world. Science and academia are as flawed as any other domain of knowledge. Keep up the good work and I love your passion for your sport.

I love the podcast and these two guys know what they're talking about. The on ly thing they're missing is a bit of post-production to move the podcast from good to great... Thanks for the efforts. I have learned a lot by listening to both of you.

Love this podcast. Excited every time a new one comes out. Makes you think and revisit and reevaluate some things you do as a coach, and why you do them. You can relate to them because they speak from experience. Always giving the people what they want!

I recently started listening to this podcast after Mario Fraioli recommended it on his Morning Shakeout website. This is a very helpful podcast for a runner like myself who was late in the game to get into the sport. I never competed in school and so was never formally coached in running in my youth. Now, I am making a concerted effort to improve my running and overall athletic performance, which is much more effective with expert guidance. Magness and Marcus provide both philosophical motivation and practical advice on running technique. I find there approach very "down-to-earth", which reminds me not to overthink my training. I will continue to listen to this podcast regularly and use it to inform my running process. Many thanks to both coaches.

Steve and Jon thank you for continuing to give the people what they want. The last few episodes have been excellent not only for running, but some good life advice mixed in as well. Keep bringing passionate content to the people.

I always get excited when I read the titles of each episode, but find they lack structure and don’t deliver on their content. I have no problem with tangents but I don’t see the episodes develop or progress the idea mentioned in the title. Often the idea just gets reiterated repeatedly and isn’t worth the length of time the hosts spend discussing it. I love the premise of this podcast but ultimately feel disappointed by the end of the episodes.

This is outstanding!!!

I love the content of this podcast, the blogs of the authors, and their books. But not infrequently they eat while recording their podcast and it is insufferable. It makes the podcast almost unlistenable. So keep up the great work on the content, and get your meals in before or after you hit record.

Thank you for letting us join in on your conversations as coaches. You inspire learning and improvement along side realistic coaching and the sport of running. Totally agree on your recommendation for Final Surge! It has made my coaching so much easier to interact and plan with my athletes!

Great podcast for a HS/JH Coach. Very simply put for the average person. Love your philosophy on training. However, the eating sounds makes me want to vomit.

Great podcasts for coaches, but as a recreational runner I find it just as useful and informative.

Such a great show! Great for both coaches and athletes! I feel like these guys are my second coaches!

Good premise for a podcast, and these guys have good guests occasionally. However, Marcus is extremely condescending and thinks he knows everything (while pretending to be humble the whole time). He often interrupts, doesn't care to listen to others, and talks waaaay too much. He argues about semantics and the meaning of synonyms... Marcus makes this very difficult to listen to and ruins the podcast.

Steve and Jon go deep into coaching running, covering all topics related to running. But they do much more than provide advice, they go through evidence, provide experience and expound great resources. Great podcast for anyone looking for learning from the pros!

Thanks for putting these out, I really enjoy them!

You don't need to be a coach to be interested in these shows. If you do your own program, it can still teach you something.

Steve and Jonathan have open and honest discussions of coaching runners from high school through the elite ranks. Their chats remind me of what I love about track where folks are more open about their training methods and can appreciate the acheivements of all runners. As the dad of a distance runner it gives me great topics to discuss with my daughter.